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sbie Tab won't open inside un-sbie FF, that is already open?
scottls59901


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sbie 32-372, FF 14.0.1.

In the previous versions of FF-
I could open a normal FF, if I then wanted to browse outside of "safe sites(Gmail, Amazon...)",
I'd just click on my sbie taskbar icon, and a sbie Tab would open (new # page, but show as a Tab).
When you closed the sbie Tab page, the normal page would still be intact.

In the latest normally opened FF, when I click on sbie icon- A new Un-sbie normal page (No#) opens as a Tab... (Try it, and you'll see what I mean)?

-I Really liked Not having to go through the Hassle of having to close normal FF, and then reopen with sbie for searches...! Very Happy
I applied the temp fix to get to get sbie to open from email links, and hoped for something similar to that... for FF? Question

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tzuk wrote:

Guest10's solution works well, but I can't add it as a default in Sandboxie because it means that if you have an open Firefox outside the sandbox and you run Firefox in the sandbox, then a new window (or tab) opens in Firefox outside the sandbox, and nothing runs in the sandbox. I feel this kind of behavior is too confusing to offer as part of Sandboxie.

* * *

It might be possible to restore the old functionality in Firefox 14. The bugzilla page says something about Firefox 14 trying to remove all DDE functionality, but the following still seems to work for me. Download the following .reg file to your desktop (outside the sandbox), then double-click it, and confirm entering it into the registry.

http://www.sandboxie.com/contrib/Firefox14_DDE.reg


Tzuk I'm confused!?-
Should I undo Guest10's solution, then apply your .reg..., or what? Question
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Blues I'm not sure your problem is related to this. Most likely explanation for me is that you have a forced program setting for Firefox to to start in the default sandbox. (Does this mean DefaultBox?)

scottls59901 yes. If you want to try the reg file, you should remove the Window Access setting FirefoxMessageWindow.

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tzuk wrote:
Blues I'm not sure your problem is related to this. Most likely explanation for me is that you have a forced program setting for Firefox to to start in the default sandbox. (Does this mean DefaultBox?)


Yes, Tzuk, Firefox (and Plug-In Container) are set as "forced" programs for the default box. Should I remove them from that setting?

The password program had always been used with that setting in place (in the default box) while working with the open "secure" sandbox and always opened the pages as tabs in the "secure" sandbox previously...but I am certainly willing to follow your direction here if you think a change is called for.

Please let me know your thoughts and thanks!

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The problem discussed in this topic is that prior to Firefox version 14, when clicking web links outside the sandbox, the links would find the instance of Firefox that was already open. Starting with Firefox version 14, that no longer works. If that is the behavior you want, you can try that reg file from my previous post, to see if it restores the old behavior.

Even if it works now, it won't necessarily keep working in future versions of Firefox. The Firefox bug page I linked says at the top that they want to move away from DDE and copy the behavior of Chrome which doesn't use DDE.
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tzuk wrote:
The problem discussed in this topic is that prior to Firefox version 14, when clicking web links outside the sandbox, the links would find the instance of Firefox that was already open. Starting with Firefox version 14, that no longer works. If that is the behavior you want, you can try that reg file from my previous post, to see if it restores the old behavior.

Even if it works now, it won't necessarily keep working in future versions of Firefox. The Firefox bug page I linked says at the top that they want to move away from DDE and copy the behavior of Chrome which doesn't use DDE.


Understood...as noted in my reply from yesterday morning, Tzuk, the downloaded reg file did not revert the behavior after I installed it.
That was why I asked if you recommended undoing that change (from that installation), and if so, if you could give steps to do so.
(I only ask because working with the registry is not my strong suit and I'm reluctant to do anything in that regard without following your instructions.)

Thanks.
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[quote="tzuk"scottls59901 yes. If you want to try the reg file, you should remove the Window Access setting FirefoxMessageWindow.
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Re: sbie Tab won't open inside un-sbie FF, that is already open?-
I removed the old Window Access setting FirefoxMessageWindow, applied your .reg/reboot, and sbie# Tab window now opens from within Un-sbie Normal FF...! Very Happy

Sbie# also opens OK from links within email!

Thank you Tzuk! Very Happy
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Blues
Understood...as noted in my reply from yesterday morning, Tzuk, the downloaded reg file did not revert the behavior after I installed it.
That was why I asked if you recommended undoing that change (from that installation), and if so, if you could give steps to do so.
(I only ask because working with the registry is not my strong suit and I'm reluctant to do anything in that regard without following your instructions.)

Thanks.

Hey Blues:
It took me awhile to figure out how to remove Firefox.exe from Window Access Monitor- Idea
Just click on the Down Arrow in the All Programs Box, click on Firefox.exe, Remove, Apply/OK, Reboot.

Then try & see if email/FF... links open sandboxed? You might have to reapply Tzuk's .reg again, and reboot?
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Thanks, Scott...I'll take that under advisement but I'd still like to get a reply from Tzuk in regard to my last post. Thanks.
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Blues, I'm sorry to say I don't have an encouraging answer. I tested my reg file workaround on Windows XP and it doesn't seem to work. I think it might only work on Windows 7 for some unknown reason.

I went back to that Firefox bug report page and comment #39 implies they might have different behavior for XP and Vista/7.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491947#c39

I'm not sure what else I can say about this.
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tzuk wrote:
Blues, I'm sorry to say I don't have an encouraging answer. I tested my reg file workaround on Windows XP and it doesn't seem to work. I think it might only work on Windows 7 for some unknown reason.

I went back to that Firefox bug report page and comment #39 implies they might have different behavior for XP and Vista/7.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491947#c39

I'm not sure what else I can say about this.


No worries, Tzuk... Is there a way to reverse / uninstall that reg file installation you provided or does it not matter if left as is? That is my main concern at this point.
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Blues wrote:
Is there a way to reverse / uninstall that reg file installation you provided or does it not matter if left as is? That is my main concern at this point.
From looking at my own computer's Registry, it appears that all of the Registry changes that were made were new entries - that is, no entries that were already existing in the Registry were revised from their original settings by the .reg file.
If tzuk verifies that, then save this code from a Notepad window, with a name like Undo.reg and double-click it to remove all of the Registry entries that were added:
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxHTML\shell\open\ddeexec]
"NoActivateHandler"=-
@=""

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxHTML\shell\open\ddeexec\Application]

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxHTML\shell\open\ddeexec\Topic]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxURL\shell\open\ddeexec]
"NoActivateHandler"=-
@=""

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxURL\shell\open\ddeexec\Application]

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxURL\shell\open\ddeexec\Topic]

The line:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
must be the very first line in the Undo.reg file.

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I think if you just reinstall Firefox 14 then it would delete the registry keys created in the .reg file.
Just like it deletes all the DDE registry keys when upgrading from Firefox 13 to Firefox 14.
In any case I did not see a problem on Windows XP having those registry keys there.
They don't restore the old behavior, but I don't think they have any negative side effect.
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Thank you both, Paul and Tzuk. I appreciate your time, input and info.

I may (in this case) just wait for the next Firefox update to revise the registry entries as required and avoid any potential issues (through user error...(the user being yours truly... Laughing ).
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Update:

For what it's worth, I restored a week old image yesterday which predated the installation of the registry workaround provided in this thread.

I can't speak to whether or not it will make a difference for anyone else and their individual system and attributes, but Firefox is working better (for me) now that I restored it to its condition before adding those registry entries. (XP Pro SP3)

YMMV, of course.
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