Still doesn't work.

Ok, this is what I had done and maybe for you also. In your first post your mentioned that you like several boxes and the control It had given you over each box.

I have the same type thing - four boxes total. I downloaded the last update but I was busy in another box so I couldnt install the update right away. So when I was done with everything I closed that application (pokerstars) and installed the update.

when you came on and stated your problem I checked my Startmenu and I got a sandboxie error (my first ever error)

My check mark had been in the pokerstars box when I installed the update and stayed there even though I was no longer using that box.

That box was secured to pokerstars to the exclusion of others - which also by badluck included the windows shell

Somewhere in your process from your previous install b4 (censored) - the sandboxie registry has your shell in a differant box.

I think -

All you can do at this point is uninstall sandboxie and reinstall it with only the default box - nothing from your ini of the past (firefox is ok)
mitch

I will also verify if I find suspect Sandboxie registry keys before re-installing it, but I doubt that can fix the problem, as I have never installed Sandboxie while it was running. Also, I have already verified the registry, and seems it doesn't use it directly (except for its installer and the regular Windows stuff for the service.) I suppose that everything is stored in its INI file.

Anyway, thanks for your time!

Ok good luck - one other alternative is to switch back your sandboxie.ini that you saved from before - reload configuration. Since you had multiple boxes before, you will have multiple boxes listed in that taskbar menu. Put the check mark in each box one by one and try your startmenu with each.

I have already tried that, and also to create a new box just to run the explorer, but that doesn't work.

I guess the problem is caused by something changed in my system that is not compatible with Sandboxie. And I think it's something left by (censored). The problem is that I don't know what it is, and I can't get support from the BZ support or community! (BTW, it's another good reason to switch to Sandboxie, despite the problem I have. This forum is very useful and active. Thanks to the whole community!)

I've read this thread twice, still not sure which of the 2 problems you are working on. I can confirm that my XP Pro SP2 system will NOT allow you to run explorer.exe via Tray Icon -> Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer. Neither will it run using the command line - "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" c:\windows\explorer.exe

In both cases, explorer.exe starts up, no window appears, & if you wait long enough, just shuts down. In my case it also leaves behind the registry hive in the sandbox, which Sandboxie cannot delete. This behavior occurs even with all other security software shut down (and I don't have much other stuff anymore). I think this must be a bug which has appeared sometime over the last couple of releases.

I have no problems however with Run Sandboxed -> From Start Menu. All the correct choices appear for me.

Sounds like you've checked all the usual places, but to be sure -

1. Are there any BZ services running?
2. Under Device Manager, click View -> Show Hidden Devices. See if BZ maybe installed a driver here and didn't remove it.
3. Download Autoruns by Sysinternals and check the full scan to see if anything might be left over from BZ.
4. Try a registry cleaner? CCleaner is free and safe to use.

You already tried Dial-A-Fix, I'm assuming you let the whole thing run except for deleting temp files, etc (clearly unrelated stuff)? Since that didn't work, I'm not sure what else to suggest to repair your registry.

Dlguild, Wraithdu - this at least for me was traced back to the windows shell - for both problems. I have had both problems or semi and now I have no problems - everything here works good. So it's not a bug in Sandboxie.

This will trace to all of the multiple boxes we have all been creating. That "Switch To Sandbox" on the Taskbar right click setting has become meaningless for me. I mean you cant switch sandboxes with it right?

That check mark, if in the wrong place effects both problems. And I dont know what it does on a reinstall.

But roiz copied his old ini into his new installation and so the "default" was whatever box he was in last - I guess - Or where ever that Check mark just happened to be. (and I dont know how strict the setting was in that last box)

My last box was the Pokerstars box which I had so nothing else could even run (the strict setting) And when I updated, "the default" took that setting - So my windows shell couldnt run. You wouldnt notice this though as the shell will only flush it's cache with closing explorer.exe from the task manager and then restarting explorer.exe from the task manager. It wont flush on a restart, like clearing old icons in the bar.

So I guess you could all do that.

mitch

My theory is that when you ran this command - the check mark pointed to a box whose settings prevented it from running. Regardless of whether or not you were using that box at that time.

If that helps

Hi Mitch! In my case, I checked to see that explorer.exe was executing in DefaultBox. I even removed my custom .ini and replaced it with the standard one (single box). No joy. Bear in mind that I am referring to Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer. Contents of Sandbox -> Explore Contents works fine. I just did a complete Sandboxie uninstall, registry clean & reinstall (all new default box) & still have the problem. Tried disabling 'Data Execution Prevention' as well. Rebooted every step of the way.

I don't think BZ has anything to do with it as I have never installed it. The only thing that I have installed since Sandboxie came out of Beta at 3.0 is VMWare Player. I'm going to try to uninstall that next to see if there is a conflict there (I doubt it as I wasn't running the player during the tests, but it does run some background tasks all the time).

@Wraithdu - Thanks for the tip on Dial-A-Fix! While it did not solve my current Sandboxie problem, it fixed a different problem I was having on another system. Neat little program. Much appreciated!

Ok -
Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer-Works good here
Run command - works good here
Run Sandboxed -> From Start Menu - works good here

Did you stop and restart explorer.exe with the task manager?

Both!

This is very similar to my explorer problem. However, I was able to run explorer sandboxed from a new Windows user account. Obviously, the explorer problem is related to some setups, probably in the windows registry, and not to the executables themselves.

That confirm that the two problems are not related. Thanks.

It doesn't quite confirm it, I have been testing differant ini setups just randomly and I can create many differant errors between the three areas - sometimes two work other times a differant two work.

too many variables. And when I come back to my real ini setup - sometimes they are ok and sometimes not. When they are not ok, I check that my check mark is on DefaultBox, I stop explorer.exe with the task manager and restart it ....... and everything is good.

mitch

No. BZ has only(!) 3 services, and all of them have been correctly un-installed.

There are lots of non-plug&play drivers that I don't know, but none of them are related to BZ, as far as I know.

I haven't tried that yet, but I have verified the startup programs with Spybot, and only the normal programs I use and know are started automatically.

I've already cleaned my registry 2 times (with Registry Mechanic and Registry Booster.)

Yes, and I have even run some of its tools. I don't want to run the last tool however, as it replaces my SP2 exes with files from the old XP install disc, and I know that it's very dangerous!

Thanks anyway!

Mitch, I understand your point of view, but unfortunately, in my case, it's not the same thing. I can't start explorer, nor the start menu (except the desktop part of the menu) from the default box with the default configuration. I'm sure the config and the installation are clean. There is obviously something else in the system that SB doesn't like. It's probably a little SB bug that happens only in some precise circumstances.

I don't think the explorer problem comes from the old BZ installation, but I suspect BZ to be responsible of the start menu problem, as this problem has appeared only after having tried BZ. I had also some other problems with BZ, including a problem with a service that took ages to start. Maybe, for that reason, BZ has not been correctly uninstalled. Anyway, I can't do much more. The next step is to reformat the hard disc and reinstall everything, but I really don't want to do that now, especially to install a tool supposed to avoid having to do that!